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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 30th September 2010 21:43

Asslamo Allaikum Maulana Yaseen,

I "suspect" that Muftisays has correctly translated the Hadeeth of Baihaqi:

http://www.muftisays.com/blog/abu+mohammed/294_12-05-2010/hadith-on-music-19,-20-%26amp%3B-21.html

Hadhrat Ibn Mas'ud (radhiyallahu anhu) narrated that Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said: "Verily, singing generates hypocrisy in the heart just as water causes farm-produce to grow". (Baihaqi)

While Deoband.org, Darul-uloom Bury etc have incorrectly translated it as:


http://deoband.org/2010/02/fiqh/miscellaneous/mawlid-deoband-and-hanafi-fiqh/

Sayyiduna Jabir (may Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) said: “Music grows hypocrisy in the heart as water grows herbage” (Sunan al-Bayhaqi).

Different Sanad but I believe that the same words are used....I can't find the Hadeeth from Baihaqi but here it is from Abi Daud

hadith.al-islam.com/Page.aspx?pageid=192&BookID=28&am...

 

 حَدَّثَنَا  مُسْلِمُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ  قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا  سَلَّامُ بْنُ مِسْكِينٍ  عَنْ شَيْخٍ  شَهِدَ  أَبَا وَائِلٍ  فِي وَلِيمَةٍ فَجَعَلُوا يَلْعَبُونَ يَتَلَعَّبُونَ يُغَنُّونَ فَحَلَّ  أَبُو وَائِلٍ  حَبْوَتَهُ وَقَالَ سَمِعْتْ  عَبْدَ اللَّهِ  يَقُولُ سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ الْغِنَاءُ يُنْبِتُ النِّفَاقَ فِي الْقَلْبِ

 

Maulana, what are your thoughts, before I bring this to the attention of Mufti Hussain Kadodia & Ulama on deoband.org? Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) also uses the words which are used by Muftisays...

Jazakullah Khairun

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 30th September 2010 22:05

Asslamo Allaikum,

Actually here is the exact Hadeeth:

الغناء ينبت النفاق في القلب كما ينبت الماء الزرع : عبد الله بن مسعود وجابر بن عبد الله وروي عنهما مرفوعاً

 

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Translation in my humble view should be "singing" and not "Music"

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 30th September 2010 22:37
Wa Alaykum Salam,

Yes it would be better to let them know about the above. Jazakallah

Wassalam
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 15th March 2012 16:19
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Maulana, what are your thoughts, before I bring this to the attention of Mufti Hussain Kadodia & Ulama on deoband.org? Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) also uses the words which are used by Muftisays...


Was there ever any feed back on this?
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 15th March 2012 16:54

"abu mohammed" wrote:
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Maulana, what are your thoughts, before I bring this to the attention of Mufti Hussain Kadodia & Ulama on deoband.org? Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) also uses the words which are used by Muftisays...
Was there ever any feed back on this?

W-Salam,

I added a comment on 01OCT2010

Br Hamood replied the next day:

As-salamu `alaykum Muadh bhai,

Thanks for your concern.

I would think that both translations would be fine based on my understanding of the issue. I will inshaAllah double check this and make any corrections if necessary.

wassalam

...No Change...So the Ulamah must have thought that its OK.

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